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	<title>Comments on: The fall of XML</title>
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		<title>By: Ralesk</title>
		<link>http://www.sharms.org/blog/2008/07/09/the-fall-of-xml/comment-page-1/#comment-889</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralesk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell, itâ€™s about time.  Iâ€™ve been trying to avoid XML as much as possible, because itâ€™s a true mess to work with.  Yes, itâ€™s universal and yes, it can contain anything, but still an unbelievable mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, itâ€™s about time.  Iâ€™ve been trying to avoid XML as much as possible, because itâ€™s a true mess to work with.  Yes, itâ€™s universal and yes, it can contain anything, but still an unbelievable mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Aubrey Island</title>
		<link>http://www.sharms.org/blog/2008/07/09/the-fall-of-xml/comment-page-1/#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator>Aubrey Island</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, XML is not the only option, even the best option - But I know it &quot;looks&quot; so delicious to web developers and HTML nutjobs and even those secretaries that end up doing web pages and took an HTML class, something I&#039;ve always liked about XML, which I think, will keep it around for days to come, is it&#039;s a familiar face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, XML is not the only option, even the best option &#8211; But I know it &#8220;looks&#8221; so delicious to web developers and HTML nutjobs and even those secretaries that end up doing web pages and took an HTML class, something I&#8217;ve always liked about XML, which I think, will keep it around for days to come, is it&#8217;s a familiar face.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
		<link>http://www.sharms.org/blog/2008/07/09/the-fall-of-xml/comment-page-1/#comment-887</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why not get Konqueror to save bookmarks in HTML instead of XML, so I can easily use that HTML file as my home page. The conversion is a pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why not get Konqueror to save bookmarks in HTML instead of XML, so I can easily use that HTML file as my home page. The conversion is a pain.</p>
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		<title>By: zen</title>
		<link>http://www.sharms.org/blog/2008/07/09/the-fall-of-xml/comment-page-1/#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing personal, but XML *IS* the simplest way to implement things. Well defined, widely known, supported in every language. Of course it&#039;s not always the most efficient way, but still the simplest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing personal, but XML *IS* the simplest way to implement things. Well defined, widely known, supported in every language. Of course it&#8217;s not always the most efficient way, but still the simplest.</p>
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		<title>By: Quikee</title>
		<link>http://www.sharms.org/blog/2008/07/09/the-fall-of-xml/comment-page-1/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>Quikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XML has its advantages: it is universal (platform and language independent), it has well defined data formats (for example standard date/time format notation), it has defined standards for transformation and validation (not ideal but good enough). 

Of course it should not be used for everything - it is not the best human readable format (better than binary but for various configuration something like yaml or ini file format might be better suited)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XML has its advantages: it is universal (platform and language independent), it has well defined data formats (for example standard date/time format notation), it has defined standards for transformation and validation (not ideal but good enough). </p>
<p>Of course it should not be used for everything &#8211; it is not the best human readable format (better than binary but for various configuration something like yaml or ini file format might be better suited)</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.sharms.org/blog/2008/07/09/the-fall-of-xml/comment-page-1/#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently wordpress parsed out my xml, but my example was:

device: asset_tag=&quot;xxxxxx&quot;
some_property:

Imagine that as xml and that is what that big gap is in the last comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently wordpress parsed out my xml, but my example was:</p>
<p>device: asset_tag=&#8221;xxxxxx&#8221;<br />
some_property:</p>
<p>Imagine that as xml and that is what that big gap is in the last comment</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.sharms.org/blog/2008/07/09/the-fall-of-xml/comment-page-1/#comment-883</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we have systems that talk to our server, they register themselves using XML to communicate with the server.

&lt;device asset_tag=&quot;xxxxxx&quot;&gt;
 &lt;some_property&gt;&lt;/some_property&gt;
&lt;/device&gt;

To parse this, despite there being a plethora of libraries for xml available in any language, is still very much overkill.  

Protocol buffers provides a way to minimize the data traffic, increase speed, and take out a bunch of the string parsing overhead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we have systems that talk to our server, they register themselves using XML to communicate with the server.</p>
<p><device asset_tag="xxxxxx"><br />
 <some_property></some_property><br />
</device></p>
<p>To parse this, despite there being a plethora of libraries for xml available in any language, is still very much overkill.  </p>
<p>Protocol buffers provides a way to minimize the data traffic, increase speed, and take out a bunch of the string parsing overhead.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.sharms.org/blog/2008/07/09/the-fall-of-xml/comment-page-1/#comment-882</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is your simpler way? I can appreciate not liking XML in certain instances, but you don&#039;t talk about your alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is your simpler way? I can appreciate not liking XML in certain instances, but you don&#8217;t talk about your alternative.</p>
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